Size Fader (Stomp with Temp)

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  • Hi Forum, i trying to make a fader that will stomp my Relative Phaser.

    I tried some different workflow, but i'm still stuck.

    the idea it's have a fader for control the size of a phaser that it's running,

    I can easily do it if i need to control just one. So function temp directly on that sequence, but if i want use the same fader for more sequence i can't archive it.

    Already tried :

    One fader with those fixture with 1 step value on relative layer at 0 pan 0 tilt.
    The problem of this way, it's it will overridden the the sequence with the effect and turn it off.
    I need the offwhenovveridden so only the last phaser i launch will be always on.


    I tried also:
    WIth DMX in mapping in the DMX In more row for the same value that will move the temp fader of my Sequence with the phaser.
    The problem it's that the fader temp will turn on the sequence even if the AutoStart if off.


    Only Solution i FIND :
    Stack all the effect under the same sequ with different CUE.
    So i can Scroll the Effect i need. or i can make some macro to recall the cue i want.
    One fader in temp mode set with those fixture with 1 step value on relative layer at 0 pan e 0 tilt. this for a bucking showfile can be done fast with Recipe
    The 2 sequence with the offwhenoverriden set "Off" and the sequence for the Size at high Priority, the solution of the Priority will make sure that when i change cue in the Sequ of selection, it will be keep in Proportional of the Size of the effect.

    This allow me also to put a function flash to the Size Fader for bring out in the stage the abs position and that restartit by releasing the Button.
    Edit: not this doesn't work, if you have set a temp fader and flash it, it will not move.
    I would like to have a way with the phaser separate in different sequence, so if you guys have other ideas, let talk it.

  • Do you speak only about the size of Movements or as well Dimmer, Color, Zoom,....? If its only related to positions...it works well (I can tell cause I use it same in my showfile).

    I do it group based. I have a stomp fader for each group. And if I want to control all groups at one, the "group fader" are under the control of a Playbackmaster....workflow is like follow. Store in sequence a group with relative 0 on Pan/Tilt of a group, assign it as Temp to an exec. Make sure this exec is not off when overwritten. This will bring, fader down (Sequence off) Size is 100%.....Fader Up (Sequence on) Phaser is 0%. You need then a remote to control this Stomp Fader with an inverted dimmer channel. Due to the Remote Fader is a Dimmer channel you can control this one with a Playbackmaster.

  • It’s worth adding a macro conman that offs your size fader every time an effect is switched in, other wise you have to manually drop the fader for it to engage and be useable

  • You don't need to off he size fader....it would make no sense to have a fader for the size as you have to off it! Because its a stomp on a temp fader you control the size of the stomp ;)

  • But it’s stomps pan and tilt for a whole group not just for the movement. If you save the movement to a fader and change the fader to temp it is size by default. But if you stomp pan tilt for a group and save that as a temp fader it will size fade any movement effect for said group. Unfortunately in practice if you engage a new movement after reducing the size of a previous movement, the fader position doesn’t carry over. So you have to drop the fader before it will continue to work.


    Unless I’m doing something wrong, I’d love to not have to add this macro so all my movements.

  • But it’s stomps pan and tilt for a whole group not just for the movement. If you save the movement to a fader and change the fader to temp it is size by default. But if you stomp pan tilt for a group and save that as a temp fader it will size fade any movement effect for said group. Unfortunately in practice if you engage a new movement after reducing the size of a previous movement, the fader position doesn’t carry over. So you have to drop the fader before it will continue to work.


    Unless I’m doing something wrong, I’d love to not have to add this macro so all my movements.

    HI, the fader where you have the relative to zero with the tempo function must to be in a High priority then the sequ where you have the effect so if you set to 50% any effect Will be influenced

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