shuffle / random dimmer phaser

Have you tried changing the value of PHASE?

Shuffle has always the same pattern for the same Shuffle number. Changing the Shuffle number changes the shuffle pattern.

Quote from Paul

ok, so there is no possibillity to create a shuffle with changing patterns. its allways the same.

Change XShuffle/YShuffle/ZShuffle (depends on the grid axis you are using) to a different value and you will have a different selection order/pattern.

I believe Paul is referring to the selection order changing within the phaser. Yes shuffle changes the selection although it remains the same for the phaser (not random).

I'm also looking for a way for the the XShuffle/YShuffle/ZShuffle seed to change during the phaser running.

Phasers are not random, they are very predictable. What makes the random effect is if you use it on a shuffled group.

What I would do in the template show is create groups 1 to 5 which you manually store your unshuffled groups.

Then you create a macro that for all groups created a shuffled version. Something like:

Group 1
Shuffle
Store Group 101 /Overwrite
Label Group 101 "Group 1 Shuffle"
... repeat for all groups

(You can run the macro again if you want a new order)

Now in your sequence recipe line you can choose which group you want to use, the normal or the shuffled version.

You can even write a macro that replaces the group in the recipe so you can easily switch between them

Hannie, the selection with your method again again stays constant, which of course is the intended function of a shuffle x/y/z seed, although from a visual standpoint of a random effect, you start to see a repeating pattern of the selection order.

I'm curious if anyone has come up with a way of randomising the seed of shuffle whilst the phaser runs (until MA come up with a way to do this)

I didn't try it myself. but maybe try to send the dimmer dmx channel of a specific fixture to a remote dmx and make it trigger a cue with a CMD to reshuffle the phaser. Sounds bizzare, but I wonder if it works.