Encoders and names shown

BECOME PART OF THE COMMUNITY - Sign up here
  • I have a suggestion about the information shown in the Letterbox Encoder screen.


    When an Attribute have multiple Channel Functions they are shown to the left of the virtual encoder like here:



    The name used is the Attribute-Pretty name.

    As these Channel Functions often refer to the same sub attribute the same name is shown for different Channel Functions.

    This doesn't make much sense to me as we need to know what we select.


    What if you instead used the actual Channel Function Name?

    In addition to being quite logic (Using the Channel Function name for the Channel Function..)

    it is also very easy to change without messing with the Fixture profile too much.

    You could easily improve profiles to your liking.


    ( Please also make more room for these names so we can see more than 8 characters. Even less with OnPC it seems. )


    With this, filtering out the attributes not used by current selection and implementing the promised encoder customization I would be quite pleased :)



    So - what did I miss?

    Why is this like it is today? Why is my suggestion a bad idea?

  • This is how I set my custom profiles up. Mine does use the Channel Function Name (unless I'm misunderstanding)




    A fair amount of work to setup but it seems to work well.


    It's easy to mess up so that turning the encoder ends up just moving through all of the channel functions.

    It would be so nice to see the selected Channel Set name as well as it's value; 3: (20) Forward Once for example.

  • Yes showing the Channel set name would also be a big improvement!


    Looking at your custom profile it seems like you've got the Channel Function names showing..

    But could it be that you also have Attributes named Loops / Once and Effect? (At least as their pretty names?)

    I always got the 'Pretty name' by the encoder but the Channel Function names when opening the dialog.


    If you edit the Channel Function name in your profile will the names by the encoder change?

  • When you mentioned the Attribute name I double checked and no I don't have an Attribute named Loops, Once or Effect, in this case the Attribute name is Play Mode.


    I was also able to Edit the Channel Function Name and that edits the text on the left of the encoder.



  • At least until we see a revision of the encoderbar, there is no magic option, the source of the display-text merely depends on what data that is provided.


    Notice that in hoss' fixture, he has not split the logical channel into channelfunction segments with individual attribute assignments, but rather added additional channelfunctions, without attribute assignment.


    e.g. 1

    Channelfunction abc 0-127 Attribute Dimmer

    Channelfunction def 128-255 Attribute Strobe

    ->

    Dim

    Sh1


    e.g. 2

    Channelfunction Once 0-127 Attribute Playmode

    Channelfunction Loop 128-255 Attribute Playmode

    ->

    Playmode

    Playmode


    e.g. 3

    Channelfunction PlayMode 0-255 Attribute Playmode

    Channelfunction Once 0-127

    Channelfunction Loop 128-255

    ->

    Playmode

    Once

    Loop

  • Notice that in hoss' fixture, he has not split the logical channel into channelfunction segments with individual attribute assignments, but rather added additional channelfunctions, without attribute assignment.


    When I originally made this profile back in February I questioned the need for the Logical Channel for a media server profile as I recall now. When I tried making Logical Channels I forgot running into this attribute issue on the encoder bar. I understand the need Logical Channels for a combined Dimmer / Strobe channel (e.g. 1) but is example 3 a viable solution? It seems to work in this profile but I'm not sure if I should be doing it differently.

  • Thanks for explaining Andreas, I should have noticed the lack of attribute.


    I designed my fixture profile in the online GDTF builder and there is no option to NOT assign attributes that I can find.

    In MA editor I can change to EMPTY if I like .


    Not sure if I understand the implications of not having an attribute vs having one.

    Seems to me most profiles use individual attribute assignments.



    To MA: I still think I have a valid point for always using the 'Channel function name'.